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On March 5, SA Rugby nominations for President, Deputy President and Vice President, must be received in writing, from both the nominees accepting the nomination, as well as those doing the nomination, for the SA Rugby elections that will take place on the March 26.

It is really quite simple. SA Rugby’s 14 unions each have 2 votes and the individual with a majority of 15 out of 28 votes wins.

It is without doubt one of the most important watershed moments in the annals of South African rugby, as the new leadership comprising the President, Deputy President and Vice President, will assume office for a term of 4 years through till 2014. These 3 individuals will comprise the SA Rugby leadership triumvirate, which will take SA Rugby into the future, with either some limp wristed chatter of promises, or a powerful credible team that will make bold progressive changes to and enhance SA Rugby.

Candidates who have made themselves available for election so far, are Oregan Hoskins, who has been SA Rugby President for four years (two terms of two years each), Mark Alexander, a serial administrator in other sports, who has been Deputy President for two years and Rautie Rautenbach who has been a figure head for 2 years as Vice President, the most notable contribution is attending a Confederation of African Rugby, as the SA Rugby representative in Dakar, Senegal, last year.

Again each of these three have, over the past two weeks, let it be known, that they will also stand for any other presidential position, as it is just way too intoxicating a feeling to not consider being in the mix.

Oregan Hoskins, from the Sharks, is a nice guy, however he was first elected to stand opposite Brian van Rooyen in February 2006, specifically because he was coloured, as the SA Rugby constitution at the time required that the three SA Rugby Presidential candidates comprise of a white, coloured and black, in no particular order. This was to particularly bring into effect, his mandate from his nominees and backers of the big five, which at the time was clear, prevent the Southern Spears from entering Super 14. This in effect started the clandestine collusion of the big five franchises, three of whom faced the very real prospect of relegation for two of the five years, out of the Super 14 from 2006 to 2010. A case of, All for one and one for All against the Eastern Cape.

The only reason this impasse and threat to all six Super rugby franchises came about which has been festering for four years, at a staggering cost of some R400-million to SA Rugby, is that no one has quite simply bothered to sit down and figure out how to embrace the six South African Super rugby franchises, to all play in international tournaments, and be of benefit to all of South African rugby.

Instead SA Rugby has lost close to a R500-million to exclude three of their own unions from Super rugby, instead of embracing them and yet still, to this very day, one reads the most appalling drivel and lame excuses about including the Eastern Cape as the sixth South African Super rugby franchise, in any exhibition game, except that of the Super 14 or Super 15.

Exactly one month after Hoskins was elected President in February 2006, he arrived in Port Elizabeth, on March 29 2006, to allegedly champion the way forward for the Eastern Cape’s Super Rugby ambitions and instead, excused himself early from the meeting, to take a helicopter ride to Alicedale to view the site of the new R30-million proposed SA Rugby Academy. Neither of these material and significant developments have taken place and SA Rugby has neither arranged an annual scheduled tournament for the sixth South African franchise, nor the R30-million intended for the Rugby Academy, which was used to buttress the SA Rugby balance sheet in 2008 to avoid declaring any losses.

To evaluate the merits of the three incumbents, who have put themselves up for election, again, it is probably best to look at a score sheet for Hoskins term of office over four years and Mark Alexander and Rautie Rautenbach over their term of office over two years, to evaluate what they have done or not done as administrators and then to look at the only alternative to salvage SA Rugby for the future.

Regan Hoskins — President of SA Rugby for 4 years 2006-2010

1. Eastern Cape franchise — Southern Spears — Loss of multiple High Court actions declaring the Southern Spears Super Rugby agreement legal and binding on SA Rugby — Cost to SA Rugby: R400-million
2. Serial violations of breaching the SA Rugby constitution with regards to binding agreements and President Council Resolutions
3. SA Rugby Academy — R30-million — scuppered
4. Cost of Pumas tour to South Africa — Loan from the International Rugby Board
5. Cost of the abandoned Ireland SA Test in Dubai — R9-million
6. A record Triple unreserved apology to the Parliamentary Portfolio Committee of Sport for misrepresenting facts at a briefing.
7. Loss of R150-million revenues from SANZAR over five years to the NZ and Australia rugby unions by agreeing to give up 5% of broadcast revenues
8. Rugby World Cup Bid 2015 — Failed
9. Rugby World Cup Bid 2019 — Failed
10. Super 15 Rugby Franchise — Failed

Mark Alexander — Deputy President of SA Rugby for 2 years from 2008-2010

1. Chairman of EP Rugby charged with ensuring the province gets a Super Rugby franchise — Failed
2. Serial violations of breaching the SA Rugby constitution with regards to binding agreements and President Council Resolutions
3. Rugby World Cup Bid 2015 — Failed
4. Rugby World Cup Bid 2019 — Failed
5. No Southern Kings Franchise shareholders agreement
6. No Southern Kings President’s Council Resolution
7. Super 15 Rugby Franchise — Failed

Rautie Rautenbach – Vice President of SA Rugby for 2 years from 2008-2010

1. Serial violations of breaching the SA Rugby constitution with regards to binding agreements and President Council Resolutions.

So who then are the best Presidential candidates to lead SA Rugby out of this darkness?

Of all the 14 Provincial Rugby Union Presidents, plus the 3 Presidential incumbents (who are not allowed to vote), there is but one individual, who stands head shoulders above all 17 rugby Presidents, as the true bona fide rugby man and the only authentic and pedigreed Springbok amongst them and that man is — Kevin de Klerk — President of the Lions.

What better than a pedigreed rugby man to lead our rugby?

Combine Kevin de Klerk’s stature and leadership, with the continuity of knowledge and years of experience of SA Rugby’s administration, which Mike Stofile has and you have the perfect 1-2 combination to turn SA Rugby around in months, and to deliver healthy annual revenue streams to each of the 14 Unions.

Mike Stofile is a straight shooter and tells it like it is and has attended all the Presidential Council meetings at which key Resolutions and binding agreements have taken place and can offer an antidote and solution to the continuous conflict the sixth Eastern Cape Super rugby presents to SA Rugby.

Kevin de Klerk and Mike Stofile would be the powerful SA Rugby leadership combo, to lead SA Rugby out of this turmoil, with their strong and effective leadership, focusing on deliverables and fulfilment for the benefit of all SA Rugby.

Gone would be the flippant rhetoric and patronizing chit chat press releases, which are trotted out by SA Rugby’s media department at the behest of the incumbents.

The 14 SA Rugby unions who have two votes each, represent their clubs, who voted to put them there for the benefit of all SA Rugby, would be wise to heed the siren call of a Kevin de Klerk and Mike Stofile 1-2 combo for SA Rugby.

This combination alone would unlock the value and funding for ALL 14 Unions from corporates around South Africa and rid South African rugby from this perpetual conflict and hemorrhaging of cash.

Anything less and SA Rugby and its supporters will be faced with 4 more years of misery and a skint treasury.




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37 Responses to “SA Rugby’s precedent — pride or prejudice?”

Well, I have just read the above article and would love to know where the losses of R500mil come from!? There is no ways introducing a 6th franchise into Super Rugby would produce such a profit - especially not a weak side from the Eastern Cape (the poorest province in SA), which at current ticket prices, would be lucky to have 40% of stadium capacity over a season… Also bear in mind there are large costs involved in launching and further marketing such a franchise from scratch. In fact, I would say there is more chance it would initially run near a loss if anything.

Then, how does R30mil “committed” to a Rugby Academy on the balance sheet “avoid declaring any losses”? Accounting100…

You seem to enjoy preaching doom and gloom for SA Rugby!? I on the other hand see us as world cup winners, s14 winners, tri nations winners and the list of rugby accolades goes on. Do you really think entering an eastern cape side in a major rugby tournament will help the smaller unions develop? Look where they are in the currie cup. Unless diluting the big 4 franchises is your goal, but then we’d probably find all 6 in the bottom half of the log and I seriously dont see how that has helped anyone? A whole country angry and depressed every weekend after yet another embarrassing defeat…

How about giving some names of great candidates that could fill the ranks!? I am quite sure we have many of those - given our proud rugby culture here in SA. Or instead of feeding us fictitious numbers that seem to come off a Cheeky Watson scribble pad (at best), how about a realistic solution to building up rugby in the smaller unions from grass roots level to ensure they prove themselves come Currie Cup time and then perhaps they will be ready for a world stage?

I look forward to your response

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John-Robert on March 1st, 2010 at 9:10 am

Sorry, I got tired and didn’t get to the bottom of your article re: Kevin de Klerk’s appointment. I am glad you added this, but am perhaps not in agreement with the candidates. Only time will tell when they have made their selection.

Do you not think Stofile will try and push through the Spears? That is what you want I suppose, but a very bad idea in my mind.

I suppose my only qualm is the unrealistic numbers you have used to direct attention at your desire to incl. a 6th franchise in an already struggling SA Super 14 campaign.

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John-Robert on March 1st, 2010 at 9:18 am

Well written Tony,it should be obvious John-Robert that another franchise equals more tv money from Newscorp instead of the smaller sum we now get due to the 5 Australian franchises

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Blender Boy on March 1st, 2010 at 11:48 am

John-Robert:

Firstly, it is unthinkable that SA Rugby should leave three of its 14 unions out of Super 14/15 rugby. This promotes discord and acrimony as it is unfair and has been proven to be illegal and in violation of the SA Rugby Constitution.

Put that down to 6 votes at the 26th March election - that neither Hoskins nor Alexander can count on.

Secondly, I am not advocating that the 6th franchise comprising of these 3 unions should waltz in to Super 14/15 - I am saying accommodate the 6th franchise in an expanded international tournament that does not put it in conflict with the SANZAR Super 14/15 and embraces other rugby nations.

SA Rugby has the capacity in terms of number of players and depth of coaches and specialists to broaden its base internationally and not just in the Southern Hemisphere.

The problem with the diet of just the 3 SANZAR nations competing year in and year out - Since Super 8 - has resulted in massive declines in gate attendances, speaks volumes of the lack of spectator interest across all 3 nations.

This naturally effects broadcasters and their viewership numbers and irks sponsors that games are being played to less than half empty stadia.

Taking the 6th South African franchise into another theatre of rugby competition - be it Northern Hemisphere or the Americas, will enable SA Rugby to defuse this constant battle between its unions and enable them to harvest new and different sponsors in different parts of the world to grow the game.

The cost of excluding the 6th franchise and Eastern Cape from Super rugby is prohibitive and has already been at enormous cost to SA Rugby, who has surrendered 5% (R150m) of broadcast revenues to NZRU & ARU. That was R150m that should have gone to the 14 SA Rugby unions over 5 years and instead will now be split between the NZRU & ARU.

There was an allocation of R30m by SA Rugby from SuperSport broadcast revenues that was intended for a SA Rugby Academy in Alicedale in 2007 - which Jake White was to use for the 2007 Rugby World Cup. Instead of that investment it was conveniently dropped into the bottom line of SA Rugby to reflect a modest profit for the financial year of 2008. This was not pie in the sky stuff as SA Rugby commissioned architects and professional team to do the SA Rugby Academy, but with no cash it never happened.

Much as you say I am a doom & gloom guy - I am an advocate for fair play and that performance and merit must be rewarded as in - May the best team win!

That means I will champion the cause of those folk that are like minded and subscribe to the same sense of fair play and sportsmanship.

In my opinion the dream team to lead SA Rugby into the next 4 years are:

President Kevin de Klerk
Deputy President - Mike Stofile
Vice President - Dawie Groenewald

They will remove the conflict and financial cannibalism out of SA Rugby, deliver solutions and an efficient administration far superior to that which has been flailing around for 4 years.

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Tony McKeever on March 1st, 2010 at 11:58 am

super rugby is being diluted to the point of destruction with the continued expansion of its format - all because of people like you tony - one of the very perpetrators of discord and acrimony that is gnawing at the foundations of rugby in this country

looking through this and prior entries you have made you demonstrate and prove an inability to quantify even basic economic equations (cases in point: claiming that trebling the price of lions test tickets and selling 90% of them was less profitable than maintaining regular prices, and claiming the saracens v boks game earned less than 5% of the gate when the real figure was close to 50%)

given all of your most basic of errors (whether these are deliberate as I suspect that they may be or not) it is very very difficult to believe anything you say. and this is a great pity because there are genuine issues to be discussed - but this discussion needs to be removed from the biased politicking which you are seemingly intent on.

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Louis on March 2nd, 2010 at 9:53 pm

Louis:

Clearly you need to visit SpecSavers, and soon - at no time have I advocated the dilution of Super Rugby. Odd how you can distort issues.

If you read my column without the fierce bias that you are so intent on - you will realise that - and you can verify these numbers off the IRB site at http://www.irb.com/unions/index.html that SA Rugby’s player base is more than double the combined NZRU & ARU.

It is SA Rugby that requires expansion for its players, so when they cut and leave 3 of their unions out of the equation, it makes no sense.

However this is something that you obviously subscribe to and therein lies the problem that is to the detriment of our rugby - exclusionary acts.

That now is a genuine issue that needs to be remedied.

And let me be very clear for you Louis - I am an advocate of order and not chaos and chaos will prevail if you exclude 21.42% of your shareholders.

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Tony McKeever on March 3rd, 2010 at 11:09 am

Louis it seems that Tony has a point as my understanding is that he is saying leave the SA big five to play Super 15 rugby and let the other 3 Eastern Cape unions franchise play in another separate tournament, either in the Americas or in the Northern Hemisphere.
I also do not see him asking SA Rugby for any handouts, just to treat all unions equally.

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June on March 3rd, 2010 at 12:21 pm

Louis you are really very dogmatic and need to display some logic in understanding the macro economics of diminishing marginal returns in a closed economy like the Super 15, which I agree with you on and an economic expansion program with the introduction of a new international tournament for those SA Rugby unions excluded from the Super 15.

The diminishing marginal returns drum that you keep banging on about, does not apply here, as it applies to the fixed and variable inputs of the Super 15 with 15 teams, 5 each from the 3 SANZAR nations.

June must be a beautiful lady with an equally beautiful open mind, as she gets it and explained it to you quite succinctly.

My proposal follows the economic expansion - not of the Super 15 - but of the South African Rugby market into the Americas with Argentina and the Northern Hemisphere - and indulge me here - spearheaded by the Eastern Cape franchise.

The Eastern Cape franchise as an entirely separate entity, is the catalyst, in increasing the level of economic rugby activity, with a new international competition offering sponsors an increase in the amount of goods and services available - read teams and broadcasters - in the South African and international rugby market place.

New offerings need to be introduced into the rugby market place to grow the game and the commercial base, as our player market is too big to be squeezed into the same business model as the ARU and NZRU.

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Tony McKeever on March 3rd, 2010 at 1:45 pm

so are you saying that south africa should or should not have got a 6th team for the super 15 tournament?

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Louis on March 3rd, 2010 at 3:02 pm

LOUIS:- That Super 15 notion is now irrelevant to a 6th SA franchise - it is over.

However, a 6th franchise does exist in the Eastern Cape and that should play in another international tournament.

Once they are viewed as competitive - who knows maybe a relegation promotion series would be a good thing to fight for.

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Tony McKeever on March 3rd, 2010 at 3:20 pm

a 6th sa super 15 team is entirely relevant in the context of your ranking of presidency candidates

an additional international tournament sounds an intriguing concept in principle. it is however recognised in many circles that the rugby calender is stretched to its limit as it is. it is also questionable that there is truly an appetite from the rugby loving public and from sponsors but should a compelling commercial case exist, it cannot be assessed solely on its own merits however. the impact on existing commercial arrangements must be considered first and foremost as this is the bread and butter of south african rugby - without which no grass roots development will be possible. unfortunately what is best for a 6th franchise may not be what is best for south african rugby as a whole. you can never make everybody happy - it would be ludicrous to think that an arrangement is possible which aligns and maximises all parties interest - some level of conflict should be expected and is a natural part of a competitive performance-driven environment.

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Louis on March 3rd, 2010 at 7:00 pm

Anyone who lauds Mike Stofile as the solution has got serious problems with his thought processes. Stofile’s appointment is the product of nepotism, so he is immediately tainted. That aside, have you forgotten his meddling in the selection process or the “luke watson is an honourary black” debacle? You also say Stofile has the antidote but fail to expand on what that antidote is.

Do we really want an Eastern Cape Franchise? I think not: they will be worse than the Lions by a country mile and it would do nothing for their players. The Eastern Cape (or Province, I forget) don’t even feature in any of the other competitions.

Maybe the divergence of oppinion in the comments can be attributed to an unclear report, but I don’t see much sense in what you have proposed. In fact I don’t see much sense in the article itself.

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Adam on March 8th, 2010 at 10:07 am

ADAM: Your comment is laced with racial invective.
So forget the pilloring of individuals with an obtuse emotional argument and stick to the facts.

SA Rugby are obligated to uphold free and fair fixtures and tournaments not promote discriminatory exclusionary tournaments.

1. SA Rugby are not doing that by excluding 3 of their 14 unions from Super Rugby
2. Whether you Adam, want an Eastern Cape franchise or not, does not count, SA Rugby have a Presidents Council resolution that obligates them to have one, whether it is weak or not - it has to have one.
3. Only after that is in place can you then gauge who is the better team with an annual play off with May the best team win - no favours - pure performance.

Your commentary takes little cognisance of fair play and a tournament for all and advocates separatism.

That is on its own a disasterous position.

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Tony McKeever on March 8th, 2010 at 10:31 am

Haa Tony, the race card rears its ugly head again. Those ARE the facts: Stofile did meddle in selection and call Luke watson an honorary black.

It’s not obtuse. It’s not emotional. It actually happened and it’s wrong.

To exclude a weak team from the Super 14 is not racist/separatist. Its realistic. You don’t see all the weak English local rugby clubs playing in the Heinekin Cup do you? If we take your argument to its logical conclusion, then we are being separatist by excluding Zimbabwe from the tri-nations.

Your article seems to assess Stofile on what he will propose for the Eastern Cape, but your subsequent comments, addressed to me and Louis seem to indicate that the ship has sailed and there is nothing left for Stofile to decide. So what is the antidote then? You can’t write one thing and then totally change your tack when people show you the error in your ways.

Lastly, we actually don’t need to try the franchise out at Super 15 to know that they will fail. The unions that will constitute the franchise do that quite admirably in all the other tournaments they play.

By writing your comment regarding race, you have proven Vincent 100% correct on his comparison of you and Malema. I suppose you will call me an evil colonialist now…

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Adam on March 8th, 2010 at 10:53 am

Here is a thought:

Why dont they do the following with every union and most importantly SA Rugby as follows:
1. Hire a group of qualified professional such as Chartered Accountants, Lawyers, Marketing experts, Economists etc and run the unions as a business and not a political tool with real things in business such as budgets, reasons for expenditure not being used, strategies etc…
2. Get rid of political muppets out of running the show
3. Make their salaries performance based and they should only be entitled to bonuses if the respective unions makes profits and the franchise’s winning percentage.
4. Make their performance come up for review on an annual basis

But we all know this will never happen and will continue to be run by incompotent fools.

Tony, you really have wonderful people skills, its amazing how free apeech is promoted in this country but when you do say something its shot down, kind of reminds me of the Robert Mugabe way of things.

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Champ on March 8th, 2010 at 11:19 am

ADAM: Leave Stofile, Luke Watson and your commentary, sorry sensitivity, on SA politics to the side.

You are from the legal profession so I need to ask, Whether Presidents Council Resolutions and Agreements are to be honoured?

A simple Yes or No will do.

If Yes, then you have a fair system that includes all 14 Unions.

If No, then you propose a disjointed discriminatory system in rugby in South Africa.

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Tony McKeever on March 8th, 2010 at 11:22 am

CHAMP: I fully agree with your Points 1-4 - so at least have them try and get there.
Now we are on to social anthropology and Free Speech? We are entitled to different opinions so why when I oppose an opinion I am now Mugabe like, but the converse does not apply?
Still I like your 1-4 action list.

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Tony McKeever on March 8th, 2010 at 11:28 am

LOUIS: Your mind is in the gutter and your e-mail add. is testimony to that - and no - your speculation is way off.

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Tony McKeever on March 8th, 2010 at 11:35 am

Tony you and Carl Niehaus are clearly associates; as Adam pointed out you either have severe acute selective amnesia, or you are just a doos who pontificates one moment and prevaricates the next.

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His Hon Rev The Lipid on March 8th, 2010 at 11:36 am

Perhaps the Mugabe metaphor was a bit harsh but all I am saying Tony is that this is am open forum and the comments that are received are from very frustated supporters who find the administration of SA Rugby a joke, we are all entitled to our opinions as you stated but to get into a mud slinging contest with the bloggers is a waste of time and does not solve anything.

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Champ on March 8th, 2010 at 11:38 am

ADAM: The headline of the column is SA Rugby precedent - Pride or Prejudice?
That is what SA Rugby is about and you have clearly demonstrated which one best describes your position.

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Tony McKeever on March 8th, 2010 at 11:38 am

Oh and I have just seen in your bio that you are involved in EC rugby at an executive level. Surprise!! And you refer to yourself as “mad”.

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His Hon Rev The Lipid on March 8th, 2010 at 11:39 am

His Hon Rev The Lipid: AKA Brendan: Best you put your scrabble dictionary away it makes you come across confused and incoherent.

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Tony McKeever on March 8th, 2010 at 11:43 am

ADAM: Let’s be clear here:

Should the SA Rugby Presidents Council Resolutions and Agreements be honoured?

A simple Yes or No will do.

If Yes, then you have a fair system that includes all 14 Unions.

If No, then you propose a disjointed discriminatory system in rugby in South Africa.

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Tony McKeever on March 8th, 2010 at 11:46 am

Also divulging what someone’s email adress might be, or commenting on what profession a poster might follow is tantamount to exposing info your comments section says will not be published.

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His Hon Rev The Lipid on March 8th, 2010 at 11:49 am

I quite like my scrabble set. I often play against myself while drinking my pink nesquik. Exposing my true name, you sly old dog! I admire your power, and the expertise with which you yield it.

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His Hon Rev The Lipid on March 8th, 2010 at 11:56 am

His Hon Rev The Lipid - seems like you and I both like Die Antwoord and Californication - which I can relate to - but that pink Nesquik thing is too much for me - I would prefer to stick with an ice cold curry milkshake!

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Tony McKeever on March 8th, 2010 at 3:58 pm

ADAM: As a point of order one cannot deal with the Eastern Cape separately - it has to be dealt with holistically with all 14 unions - which was actually done at great effort in 2005 with copious amounts of meetings and white papers and Presidents Council Resolutions. Now that has not been the MO of this administration, which is what the column above deals with.

Your identity remains precious and in tact and no one knows who or what Adam or His Hon Rev The Lipid does. Your identity remains incognito.

But as for cricket?
This is a rugby column, so expect to be tackled every now and then when you have the ball, as much as you like to do the crash tackling on myself, expect to get tackled in return - but it is always done in good humour - as I am sure I love the game as much as you do.

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Tony McKeever on March 8th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

So Eastern Cape Revolution, you claim the other people are childish for hurling insults but you claim that if the Eastern Cape do not get a Super 15 spot that things are going to burn down, that is the most retarded logic I have ever learned in my entire life. But lets be honest here, when Eastern Cape Rugby is run by Professional people with an IQ above 50 and not political muppets then maybe they can be awarded a new spot.

Why does the Union crawl before it can walk by first playing in the Currie Cup before playing with the big boys? But its this short sighted logic is the reason the Union is in a huge mess.

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Champ on March 9th, 2010 at 8:07 am

Ec revolution: Big mouth.

Tony: Facebook is a lekker place, hey?

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His Hon Rev The Lipid on March 9th, 2010 at 9:07 am

Champ: Take Eastern Cape Revolutions call to arms with a bag of salt, but do empathize with his frustration, which reflects that of the Eastern Cape rugby supporters and players from being excluded from Super Rugby.

This “crawl before you walk” statement is so cliched and irrelevant for the following reasons:

1. No Franchise plays in the Currie Cup

2. Let the budding 6th franchise play 3 relegation and promotion matches with the last placed SA side in the Super 14 or Super 15 - and let the best team win.

Finally a thought to ponder, that the Stormers Director of Rugby is Rassie Erasmus of the Eastern Cape and Alistair Coetzee also of the Eastern Cape and this exodus of coaching and player skills is only on account of the fact that the Eastern Cape has been excluded from Super Rugby in South Africa.

This is a major problem and the administration is in denial if they think they can take another 3 years to fix this, they will be beset with problems.

To quote Hoskins himself on the 29th March 2006:

“This is tearing rugby apart in South Africa”.

Yet here we are exactly 4 years down the line with no solution or will by the administration to remedy so blatant an issue.

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Tony McKeever on March 9th, 2010 at 9:27 am

ADAM: You are incredibly defensive. At no time have I labelled you anything, save to say, “Your comment is laced with racial invective”.

How you go from there, to accusing me of calling you a “racist”, is an enormous leap and a huge assumption that you make yourself.

That now is no laughing matter.

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Tony McKeever on March 9th, 2010 at 11:06 am

Eastern Cape Revolution: Are you kidding!? After reading your comments above, I think the least of the countries worries in the Eastern Cape relate to rugby… Perhaps education would be the appropriate starting point for the province.

I don’t see how you can sit there and pretend as though the country has done nothing for you. It’s people with a similar mentality to yours that have put the majority of Africa into the disgusting state of disrepair it’s in. I see a lot of similarity between this and the Spears franchise issue discussed above - a dimwitted expectation of “handouts” being “deserved”. The funny thing is the EC has been given so many handouts of late it’s a joke. If you can’t see all the money that’s been pumped into the Nelson Mandela Metropolitan area then you are blind. Just take a look at the Coega Industrial Development Zone. East London probably needed that a lot more to be sustainable (without Daimler), but you got it. Many jobs created and millions pumped into the local economy.

Feeling the need to pretend that bombing churches and threatening women and children as a result of only god knows what bee you have in your bonnet is pathetic, cowardly and disgusting!

I think you should accept that Eastern Cape is on the up. FACT! and a positive approach by it’s people can only accelerate this. With the player pool currently available to the local union - they are unable to produce a competitive side (at present). They don’t have money to lure other top players away from the big unions yet and will need an extended period in a fair alternative to advance towards this goal. Until the EC Rugby union makes their own alternative and returns profits to build up a healthy balance sheet, NO ONE is going to spoon feed them into an embarrassing result for the rest of this proud rugby playing & supporting country. Cases in point - look at NMMU in the Varsity Cup and the “Mighty Elephants”, with a claim to fame of narrowly beating Border in the Vodacom Cup.

Case closed

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John-Robert on March 9th, 2010 at 11:30 am

John-Robert you’re a bigger man than I.

Well said.

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His Hon Rev The Lipid on March 9th, 2010 at 11:38 am

Ec Revolutionary;

SO, in the old regime, the Broederbonders ignored the EC. In the new regime, EC is still ignored. This makes you angry. Angry enough to talk of bombings, uprisings, and mouth of about baiting halfwit Afrikaners, despite their money paying for your tertiary education.

Have I summed it up?

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His Hon Rev The Lipid on March 15th, 2010 at 9:33 am

Sorry I meant “and mouth off” not “of”. Grammar Nazis trawl the interwebs.

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His Hon Rev The Lipid on March 15th, 2010 at 9:34 am

EC Revolution; Do you have figures for revenue generated vs state funds spent in the EC? Over the last, say 30 years? If so, lets compare those stats to each and every province in the country; we might have to play a little due to the change in provinces post ‘94, but I think a little wiggle room can be granted. In fact lets extend it. Does the AG publish reports on municipal and provincial financials?

If RUGBY is only ONE of the elements, lets discuss the others.

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His Hon Rev The Lipid on March 15th, 2010 at 12:35 pm

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Tony led the change in corporate identity of South African Airways from the airline of the old South Africa to the flag carrier of the new South Africa.
Before that he was a competitive provincial sportsmen in swimming, diving, waterpolo, lifesaving and white water rafting.
Rugby was played at Bishops, NW Cape, Maties, van der Stel, UCT, Hamiltons and False Bay.
Tony singularly authored the blueprint for the establishment of Soccer City Stadium for the PSL which in 2010 hosted the opening and closing ceremonies of the FIFA World Cup and the Finals of the soccer showpiece.
He was past CEO of the Southern & Eastern Cape Super 14 Rugby franchise, the Southern Spears and now CEO of the Super 20 Rugby World Series.
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Rugby-Union.info links to live rugby union websites from all over the world. You can browse free sites by country or search for club teams, country sides, player profiles and international match statistics, news, results, manufacturers, and retailers. Rugby web sites listed are monitored and updated daily.
RugbyWeek
A terrific one stop rugby anthology site updated "on the whistle" which means that when the whistle blows you have the results from around the world in one site. It is one of the newer websites and focuses on all facets of rugby. Every major tournament and every major team has their own dedicated section filled with all of the latest news on that topic. Users can visit the site once a week and be kept fully up to date with the latest news on the tournament of their choice and at the same time scan the latest news in other tournaments that they do not follow as closely.
SuperSport
The best and most successful provider of premium pay-television sports coverage across the continent of Africa. SuperSport contributes its success to the seven departments which make up the company as well as the nine members of the management board who co-ordinate the functions of the company and the individual departments.
The Southern Spears
This is the Southern Spears website with a catalogue of news, releases and thumbnail sketches of the Southern Spears team and activities set up a month after their formation. This site carries more of a behind the scenes view.
VIP Limo Services
VIP Limo Services of Cape Town & Johannesburg has it's own fleet of luxury sedans. All vehicles have climate control systems with satellite navigation so drivers can get clients to their destination efficiently even in ever-changing Cape Town & Johannesburg traffic. VIP Limo Services drivers are professionally trained and licensed. All have a good knowledge of Cape Town & Johannesburg and a pleasant personality.
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