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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<author>Brent</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hullo South Africans!!!! - in sport it is us vs the world - if we do not get together and fight the others we will always lose. In joining together and winning more than loosing..... hey there is a benifit, we forge a unified nation. Naive but true, being simple works in real life.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hullo South Africans!!!! - in sport it is us vs the world - if we do not get together and fight the others we will always lose. In joining together and winning more than loosing&#8230;.. hey there is a benifit, we forge a unified nation. Naive but true, being simple works in real life.</p>
<p>Brent from Sharkland
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		<title>By: Also from the struggle</title>
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		<author>Also from the struggle</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up the son of a single mother. She was a white, Afrikaans doctor who had a surgery in downtown Bloemfontein in the early 80's. Her patients where primarily people who had been 'detained' at Bloemfontein central Police station. Our family did not make millions from being in the struggle, we got raided by the CCB, exiled, and villianised. In fact, as many of her patients were the poor, she struggled to put on the table. We are a white, Afrikaans family, who believed freedom and an ethical treatment of all stood above everything else, including personal profit.

I love the Springbok emblem, more than I love rugby. If you feel so negative about the jersey, do what many of those who were exiled or killed did, put your moral standards above your personal gain. If you feel the Springbok jersey is not good enough for you to wear due to political connotations, don't wear it. But do not sully the team by statements so idiotic that it makes me wonder how you are capable of actually drawing breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up the son of a single mother. She was a white, Afrikaans doctor who had a surgery in downtown Bloemfontein in the early 80&#8217;s. Her patients where primarily people who had been &#8216;detained&#8217; at Bloemfontein central Police station. Our family did not make millions from being in the struggle, we got raided by the CCB, exiled, and villianised. In fact, as many of her patients were the poor, she struggled to put on the table. We are a white, Afrikaans family, who believed freedom and an ethical treatment of all stood above everything else, including personal profit.</p>
<p>I love the Springbok emblem, more than I love rugby. If you feel so negative about the jersey, do what many of those who were exiled or killed did, put your moral standards above your personal gain. If you feel the Springbok jersey is not good enough for you to wear due to political connotations, don&#8217;t wear it. But do not sully the team by statements so idiotic that it makes me wonder how you are capable of actually drawing breath.
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		<title>By: Ernst van der Merwe</title>
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		<author>Ernst van der Merwe</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the loud minority is so hungup on getting rid of the Springbok, including Stofile (Sports Minister), cant we have a referendum at our rugby stadiums when the Springboks and/or Provincial teams play ? That will ensure that true democracy is ensured, those who have a true interest in the game decides about the emblem. I predict that the Springbok emblem will outlive the shelve life of any politician. Why allow them to dictate ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the loud minority is so hungup on getting rid of the Springbok, including Stofile (Sports Minister), cant we have a referendum at our rugby stadiums when the Springboks and/or Provincial teams play ? That will ensure that true democracy is ensured, those who have a true interest in the game decides about the emblem. I predict that the Springbok emblem will outlive the shelve life of any politician. Why allow them to dictate ?
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		<title>By: Theuns Kruger</title>
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		<author>Theuns Kruger</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bonga

A bit late to react on your query about Doc Craven. True, he said:"No black player will play for the Springboks AS LONG AS THE NATIONAL PARTY GOVERNS. The last part of the quote is conviniently left out. It is common knowledge that Craven had no time for politicians, especially members of the NP. He was never a member of the Broederbond, check out the list in the Super Afrikaners (Strydom and Wilkonson,I think) He also pissed off the whole NP when he met a delegation of the ANC in Harare long before Van Zyl Slabbert took his delegation up to Dakar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bonga</p>
<p>A bit late to react on your query about Doc Craven. True, he said:&#8221;No black player will play for the Springboks AS LONG AS THE NATIONAL PARTY GOVERNS. The last part of the quote is conviniently left out. It is common knowledge that Craven had no time for politicians, especially members of the NP. He was never a member of the Broederbond, check out the list in the Super Afrikaners (Strydom and Wilkonson,I think) He also pissed off the whole NP when he met a delegation of the ANC in Harare long before Van Zyl Slabbert took his delegation up to Dakar.
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		<title>By: Chris Louw</title>
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		<author>Chris Louw</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Danie Craven is quoted in an a-historical manner, what about looking at the much admired Ghandi's comments about black people? Things change (accept for the well-to-do Watsons); just read Mandela in the 1960s and compare that to what he said in the 1990s.

We all seem to have very selective memories.

As humnas we are subjects of the historical context we live in. Maybe Luke Watson should start realising how privilaged he is, living a millionaire's life while claiming victimhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Danie Craven is quoted in an a-historical manner, what about looking at the much admired Ghandi&#8217;s comments about black people? Things change (accept for the well-to-do Watsons); just read Mandela in the 1960s and compare that to what he said in the 1990s.</p>
<p>We all seem to have very selective memories.</p>
<p>As humnas we are subjects of the historical context we live in. Maybe Luke Watson should start realising how privilaged he is, living a millionaire&#8217;s life while claiming victimhood.
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		<title>By: Middles</title>
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		<author>Middles</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always enjoy your articles but were you not slightly upset at Luke going off about refraining from vomiting on the jersey and blabbing on about people laying down their lives and hypocritically saying he wore the jersey for a greater cause?

this guy has had a more priviledged life than any of us and still he plays a victim? His dad used him as a political pawn and HE IS NOT A QUOTA? It makes no sense.

Our national under 20 side, the springbok 7's side and the Springboks are all coached by coloureds. The head of SARU is non-white and one selector is also a shade darker. Now how on earth can people still force transformation!!!! If there were more talented black players they would get chosen immediately, even by the 'dutchmen' coaches.

The logic behind sports and politics eludes me completely. Sports is about individual achievement, being better than the rest, excelling above the expected. Politics is about equality, pleasing the masses and the satisfying of the majority. These two institutions are Mutually Exclusive.

And worst of all, sport has done more for the country than politics has.

The struggle is over people. Luke, you are not your Father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always enjoy your articles but were you not slightly upset at Luke going off about refraining from vomiting on the jersey and blabbing on about people laying down their lives and hypocritically saying he wore the jersey for a greater cause?</p>
<p>this guy has had a more priviledged life than any of us and still he plays a victim? His dad used him as a political pawn and HE IS NOT A QUOTA? It makes no sense.</p>
<p>Our national under 20 side, the springbok 7&#8217;s side and the Springboks are all coached by coloureds. The head of SARU is non-white and one selector is also a shade darker. Now how on earth can people still force transformation!!!! If there were more talented black players they would get chosen immediately, even by the &#8216;dutchmen&#8217; coaches.</p>
<p>The logic behind sports and politics eludes me completely. Sports is about individual achievement, being better than the rest, excelling above the expected. Politics is about equality, pleasing the masses and the satisfying of the majority. These two institutions are Mutually Exclusive.</p>
<p>And worst of all, sport has done more for the country than politics has.</p>
<p>The struggle is over people. Luke, you are not your Father.
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		<title>By: Wessel van Rensburg (aka Mhambi)</title>
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		<author>Wessel van Rensburg (aka Mhambi)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is Luke Watson's "Dutchmen" remarks different from Markgraaf's racist remarks?

What I find really revealing from this whole saga is black South Africa's total amnesia of a big part of South Africa's history: The blatant prejudice by first the British and then significant parts the English speaking public.

Do yourself a favour and read 'The Afrikaners' by Giliomee and you will know why these comments are considered so hurtful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is Luke Watson&#8217;s &#8220;Dutchmen&#8221; remarks different from Markgraaf&#8217;s racist remarks?</p>
<p>What I find really revealing from this whole saga is black South Africa&#8217;s total amnesia of a big part of South Africa&#8217;s history: The blatant prejudice by first the British and then significant parts the English speaking public.</p>
<p>Do yourself a favour and read &#8216;The Afrikaners&#8217; by Giliomee and you will know why these comments are considered so hurtful.
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		<title>By: malcolm spence</title>
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		<author>malcolm spence</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The watson family history should be looked at. Dis they switch their rugby allegiance to Motherwell for strictly political reasons or was their family trading businesses not possibly the beneficiaries that motivated their action? The Watsons have certainly reaped great financial gains from their ANC allegiance in some deals not far removed from the Kebble saga. Luke as an honorary black may be making noises appropriate to someone whose rugby abilities are never going to bring him the same rewards as those awaiting him and someone like Julius Malema. In any event they both suffer from the same disorder. Head and backside interchangeable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The watson family history should be looked at. Dis they switch their rugby allegiance to Motherwell for strictly political reasons or was their family trading businesses not possibly the beneficiaries that motivated their action? The Watsons have certainly reaped great financial gains from their ANC allegiance in some deals not far removed from the Kebble saga. Luke as an honorary black may be making noises appropriate to someone whose rugby abilities are never going to bring him the same rewards as those awaiting him and someone like Julius Malema. In any event they both suffer from the same disorder. Head and backside interchangeable.
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		<title>By: Lungani</title>
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		<author>Lungani</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke Watson is a first class prick. No wonder Jake White never bothered to look his way for so long. 
As a Sharks fan, it irks me deeply that Province are not in the final of the Currie Cup. Not because I want them to win, but because it would have been great for a, oh lets say a Jean Deysel or a certain Beast to meet the aforementioned twat on the wrong side of a ruck and truly show him how to really put a foot in the mouth.
But, we may only see the prick in action next year- because he sure as hell will never see that green and gold he so despises. 
it is scum like this that Khompela should be looking to kick out; chip-off-the-shoulder types who know they are not good enough and then revert to muddying an icon of rugby folklore, our beloved Bok.
watson truly is a first class prick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke Watson is a first class prick. No wonder Jake White never bothered to look his way for so long.<br />
As a Sharks fan, it irks me deeply that Province are not in the final of the Currie Cup. Not because I want them to win, but because it would have been great for a, oh lets say a Jean Deysel or a certain Beast to meet the aforementioned twat on the wrong side of a ruck and truly show him how to really put a foot in the mouth.<br />
But, we may only see the prick in action next year- because he sure as hell will never see that green and gold he so despises.<br />
it is scum like this that Khompela should be looking to kick out; chip-off-the-shoulder types who know they are not good enough and then revert to muddying an icon of rugby folklore, our beloved Bok.<br />
watson truly is a first class prick!
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