Comments on: Yet another Fifa balls-up http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:32:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Lala http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-7020 Lala Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:30:54 +0000 http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-7020 Dude shut up. Maybe we should have all the qualifiers be against each continents. That way it would be a 90% world cup. Dude shut up. Maybe we should have all the qualifiers be against each continents. That way it would be a 90% world cup.

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]]> By: Benzol http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-7010 Benzol Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:32:19 +0000 http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-7010 @Roots: which point did I miss?? Want to talk history? Only in the sixties came the first African (Eusebio, nicknamed "the pearl from Mozambique") to shine in the European Cup for Portugal. Before that (a) soccer was hardly professional, (b)there was not all that much money floating around, (c) many countries "frowned" upon soccer players leaving their home town/country to play for another country. Africa's soccer did not hit the press in Europe. Africa in the first world cup?? when was that again? Your reference to "blind" is an insult to many people with this disability. And I am not missing the point here. I work with the blind!!!! @Roots: which point did I miss?? Want to talk history? Only in the sixties came the first African (Eusebio, nicknamed “the pearl from Mozambique”) to shine in the European Cup for Portugal. Before that (a) soccer was hardly professional, (b)there was not all that much money floating around, (c) many countries “frowned” upon soccer players leaving their home town/country to play for another country.
Africa’s soccer did not hit the press in Europe. Africa in the first world cup?? when was that again?
Your reference to “blind” is an insult to many people with this disability. And I am not missing the point here. I work with the blind!!!!

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]]> By: Roots http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-7009 Roots Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:33:00 +0000 http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-7009 @Benzol. You are missing the point,why dont they call it FIFA not UEFA then? and Africa participated in the very first World Cup by the way, and only now do we get to host. and you say you dont get the point of the story! what the saying...none are more blind than those who cant see @Benzol. You are missing the point,why dont they call it FIFA not UEFA then? and Africa participated in the very first World Cup by the way, and only now do we get to host. and you say you dont get the point of the story! what the saying…none are more blind than those who cant see

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]]> By: Joe Misika http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-7002 Joe Misika Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:35:21 +0000 http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-7002 Interesting points you raise here so at the end of the day, FIFA say screw it, just show us the dollar and we will be ok. We dont care whats happens thereafter. We will soon be catching up to them, we have seen big sponsors jumping into soccer sponsorship. Vodafone has helped Al-Ahly of Egypt retain its core of players than selling abroad. SA over the past few years have had huge sponsorships - Absa, MTN, Vodacom, Nedbank & Telkom. Isn't that good news for the future? Interesting points you raise here so at the end of the day, FIFA say screw it, just show us the dollar and we will be ok. We dont care whats happens thereafter. We will soon be catching up to them, we have seen big sponsors jumping into soccer sponsorship. Vodafone has helped Al-Ahly of Egypt retain its core of players than selling abroad. SA over the past few years have had huge sponsorships - Absa, MTN, Vodacom, Nedbank & Telkom. Isn’t that good news for the future?

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]]> By: jay http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-6999 jay Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:19:05 +0000 http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-6999 FIFA accepts a "host country" - the same way ay parasite "accepts" a host - they take everything, control everything - and will not allow any competition because they do not want anything to interfere with their control. As a point to ponder, Australia want to "host" a "world cup" - but FIFA has arrogantly demanded that ALL other forms of Australian football sports including the Australian Rules competition - The National Rugby League competition and The Rugby Union Competition ALL go into hibernation for 12 weeks in the middle of their seasons, which fall during the time they stage "the world game" Somehow, I do not see that happening. All FIFA is interested in is money and power and to paraphrase "money talks - bullshit walks" and until Africa provides money instead of the players in the European teams - all you are going to be doing is the walking around looking in. FIFA accepts a “host country” - the same way ay parasite “accepts” a host - they take everything, control everything - and will not allow any competition because they do not want anything to interfere with their control.

As a point to ponder, Australia want to “host” a “world cup” - but FIFA has arrogantly demanded that ALL other forms of Australian football sports including the Australian Rules competition - The National Rugby League competition and The Rugby Union Competition ALL go into hibernation for 12 weeks in the middle of their seasons, which fall during the time they stage “the world game”

Somehow, I do not see that happening.

All FIFA is interested in is money and power and to paraphrase “money talks - bullshit walks” and until Africa provides money instead of the players in the European teams - all you are going to be doing is the walking around looking in.

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]]> By: David James Smith http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-6997 David James Smith Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:08:38 +0000 http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-6997 @Joe. It would be great to have more Africans at the world cup. It is the world cup after all! And they would inject new flavour to the event. Unfortunately FIFA don't give a shit. They want the cash. But maybe there is another way forward. I think the African nations need to inject more money into the Africa Cup so it becomes a marketable event. If the event was given its own spin etc, it could sell. But for this to happen the African style of play needs to promoted. Given a name and sold to the world like they did with the Brazilian style of football. With the right perspective change, the Africa cup could become the new Euro cup. It's a long way off but it is possible. @Joe. It would be great to have more Africans at the world cup. It is the world cup after all! And they would inject new flavour to the event.

Unfortunately FIFA don’t give a shit. They want the cash.

But maybe there is another way forward. I think the African nations need to inject more money into the Africa Cup so it becomes a marketable event. If the event was given its own spin etc, it could sell. But for this to happen the African style of play needs to promoted. Given a name and sold to the world like they did with the Brazilian style of football. With the right perspective change, the Africa cup could become the new Euro cup. It’s a long way off but it is possible.

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]]> By: Benzol http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-6987 Benzol Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:05:42 +0000 http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-6987 @Joe: "It doesn’t matter who started it, if they say its a world game then let it be a world game". Our African friend, Ghadaffar, made some comments about FIFA some years ago and accused the of stealing the money involved in WC for Europe by high TV rights and other "obligations". Ask SA tourism for details. I did an analysis of the players in the WC 2006. the majority (60+ %) of African players, representing African countries played outside Africa and mostly in Europe. Also, many European players did not play in their home country but in other EU countries. The champions -Italy- were the only team consisting of Italian players who played in the Italian competition. If I had the time to go through my archives, I could give you details (date, source) of Ghadaffi's comments and my spreadsheet on the team compositions iin the 2006 WC. In conclusion: soccer might be a world sport, more than rugby, cricket and ice skating, but it is still dominated by the countries who were the first to make it professional (money comes in) and lucrative (more money comes in). Africa?? What about Africa. The African stars play in Europe and do well. Hardly any European top team without Africans. Those teams control FIFA. Should African players go on strike to force FIFA to change its ways?? You tell them!! @Joe: “It doesn’t matter who started it, if they say its a world game then let it be a world game”.

Our African friend, Ghadaffar, made some comments about FIFA some years ago and accused the of stealing the money involved in WC for Europe by high TV rights and other “obligations”. Ask SA tourism for details.

I did an analysis of the players in the WC 2006. the majority (60+ %) of African players, representing African countries played outside Africa and mostly in Europe. Also, many European players did not play in their home country but in other EU countries. The champions -Italy- were the only team consisting of Italian players who played in the Italian competition.

If I had the time to go through my archives, I could give you details (date, source) of Ghadaffi’s comments and my spreadsheet on the team compositions iin the 2006 WC.

In conclusion: soccer might be a world sport, more than rugby, cricket and ice skating, but it is still dominated by the countries who were the first to make it professional (money comes in) and lucrative (more money comes in).

Africa?? What about Africa. The African stars play in Europe and do well. Hardly any European top team without Africans. Those teams control FIFA.
Should African players go on strike to force FIFA to change its ways?? You tell them!!

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]]> By: Joe Misika http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-6985 Joe Misika Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:32:05 +0000 http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-6985 @David - But cant they still not do that with the tournament hosted in Australia or United States? Fans would get there as we saw with the success of the Korea/Japan World Cup. Germany 2006 also had fans from all over the world, even from Trinidad & Tobago although they knew that their country wasn't going to go too far. Maybe they should revive a plan they had a few years back about increasing the number of participants to 36, then Africa & Asia might get a few more representatives, dont you think? @David - But cant they still not do that with the tournament hosted in Australia or United States? Fans would get there as we saw with the success of the Korea/Japan World Cup. Germany 2006 also had fans from all over the world, even from Trinidad & Tobago although they knew that their country wasn’t going to go too far.

Maybe they should revive a plan they had a few years back about increasing the number of participants to 36, then Africa & Asia might get a few more representatives, dont you think?

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]]> By: David James Smith http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-6984 David James Smith Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:21:56 +0000 http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-6984 The world cup is about cash. if the world stop being interested in European football, then FIFA would change. But for the moment, the customers like European football so that's what they are going with. If suddenly everyone turned onto watching football from Indonesia or Malawi, you can be guaranteed FIFA would make a plan to help them get there. they want bums on seats, viewership ratings and advertising dollars, they are not too concerned with things like egalitarian ideals or building a more inclusive game. The world cup is about cash. if the world stop being interested in European football, then FIFA would change. But for the moment, the customers like European football so that’s what they are going with.

If suddenly everyone turned onto watching football from Indonesia or Malawi, you can be guaranteed FIFA would make a plan to help them get there. they want bums on seats, viewership ratings and advertising dollars, they are not too concerned with things like egalitarian ideals or building a more inclusive game.

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]]> By: Joe Misika http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-6983 Joe Misika Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:42:10 +0000 http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/10/22/fifa-is-full-of-flaws/#comment-6983 @jostvandike - But then does that not make it unfair? Why not give the small guys at the bottom of the pile a chance. We have seen a big improvement with the South American qualifiers where everyone plays everyone. Bolivia hit Argentina for six, which can not be in other parts of the world. IF you give the little guy a chance, he can also improve. If there were no seeds in the finals, we could risk having England, Argentina, Brazil and Germany in the same group and the World Cup could be more open for a different country to win it, but FIFA cant take that risk. @jostvandike - But then does that not make it unfair? Why not give the small guys at the bottom of the pile a chance. We have seen a big improvement with the South American qualifiers where everyone plays everyone. Bolivia hit Argentina for six, which can not be in other parts of the world. IF you give the little guy a chance, he can also improve.

If there were no seeds in the finals, we could risk having England, Argentina, Brazil and Germany in the same group and the World Cup could be more open for a different country to win it, but FIFA cant take that risk.

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