Comments on: The Bafana puzzle: All is not lost http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/09/30/the-bafana-problem/ Thu, 17 May 2012 13:14:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: mgeve http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/09/30/the-bafana-problem/#comment-6895 mgeve Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:41:06 +0000 http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/09/30/the-bafana-problem/#comment-6895 Jomo and others grew up in the Orlando East dirt grounds and were not wearing any Corks(Soccer boots) They used to tie themselves with Creep bandages on their feet. They were lucky if Orlando Pirates doled out some worn-out skippers. We used to have D, C, B and A divisions playing in our grounds(now they have built an unused school in two of them, and the other one is using grass donated from Orlando stadium and was not used for some time. We had legions of young boys and young men playing for nothing but for the sake of the game. We did not have all the trappings of soccer today, but love for the game. Now, you talk about R160 million and what could be done with that. Well, so long the egg-heads and drug and dope-fins like Kaiser and Khoza rule the nest, we are going nowhere fast. Our boys do not understand the discipline of gym, teamwork, 'camping' in order to present our best soccer for the fans and world respect. Most of our people are sold to short-cuts in life. Our players, with earrings on the torsos, look for high and crazy paydays, when they flim-flam on the field. This is not good enough and unconscionable. I am disgusted with our self-appointed robber barons who run these team, and am ashamed of our puny soccer players, who are ill-disciplined and unable to play, let alone score. You remember, Rhee Skosana scored a bullet in the Black Eleven vs the White Eleven, and was dis-allowed- man! That is still killing me inside. Anyway, mfowethu, I like your article and smart responses. Keep up the good work. I will keep on reading your articles. Keep on keeping on! Jomo and others grew up in the Orlando East dirt grounds and were not wearing any Corks(Soccer boots) They used to tie themselves with Creep bandages on their feet. They were lucky if Orlando Pirates doled out some worn-out skippers. We used to have D, C, B and A divisions playing in our grounds(now they have built an unused school in two of them, and the other one is using grass donated from Orlando stadium and was not used for some time. We had legions of young boys and young men playing for nothing but for the sake of the game. We did not have all the trappings of soccer today, but love for the game. Now, you talk about R160 million and what could be done with that. Well, so long the egg-heads and drug and dope-fins like Kaiser and Khoza rule the nest, we are going nowhere fast. Our boys do not understand the discipline of gym, teamwork, ‘camping’ in order to present our best soccer for the fans and world respect. Most of our people are sold to short-cuts in life. Our players, with earrings on the torsos, look for high and crazy paydays, when they flim-flam on the field. This is not good enough and unconscionable. I am disgusted with our self-appointed robber barons who run these team, and am ashamed of our puny soccer players, who are ill-disciplined and unable to play, let alone score. You remember, Rhee Skosana scored a bullet in the Black Eleven vs the White Eleven, and was dis-allowed- man! That is still killing me inside. Anyway, mfowethu, I like your article and smart responses. Keep up the good work. I will keep on reading your articles. Keep on keeping on!

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]]> By: Joe Misika http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/09/30/the-bafana-problem/#comment-6891 Joe Misika Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:27:18 +0000 http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/09/30/the-bafana-problem/#comment-6891 Thanks Mgeve. At the end of the day we have to look at ourselves as a soccer nation and wonder where we are going. Development is not taken seriously in this country. You rememba a few years back after the PSL financial & marketing committee negotiated that 1.6 billion rand sponsorship deal with Supersport, then after that revelations came out that they were entitled to 5% - 10% or somethign like that from the money. How about officials stop putting funny clauses in their contracts and concetrate on the bigger picture. If we take that 10%, its going to be 160 million rands. How many soccer stars can be produced from that much, probably a lot. We can run a dozen academies from that. The money can also be used to run a reserve league, were there is a blend of experience and youth. The stars coming back from injury can be eased into the game from there and up and coming youngsters can be given a chance to play with some of their heroes. There are a lot of Ideas that can be covered for taking our soccer forward. Right now we know that players are not getting the right instructions on the pitch. The coach doesnt know english and there is a great chance that the message can be distorted when translated through someone. With Local coaches we know we are safe, if a player speaks Zulu, the coach then will speak to them in Zulu & the message will be received. At the end of the day it all falls down to administration. Thanks Mgeve.

At the end of the day we have to look at ourselves as a soccer nation and wonder where we are going. Development is not taken seriously in this country. You rememba a few years back after the PSL financial & marketing committee negotiated that 1.6 billion rand sponsorship deal with Supersport, then after that revelations came out that they were entitled to 5% - 10% or somethign like that from the money. How about officials stop putting funny clauses in their contracts and concetrate on the bigger picture.

If we take that 10%, its going to be 160 million rands. How many soccer stars can be produced from that much, probably a lot. We can run a dozen academies from that. The money can also be used to run a reserve league, were there is a blend of experience and youth. The stars coming back from injury can be eased into the game from there and up and coming youngsters can be given a chance to play with some of their heroes. There are a lot of Ideas that can be covered for taking our soccer forward.

Right now we know that players are not getting the right instructions on the pitch. The coach doesnt know english and there is a great chance that the message can be distorted when translated through someone. With Local coaches we know we are safe, if a player speaks Zulu, the coach then will speak to them in Zulu & the message will be received. At the end of the day it all falls down to administration.

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]]> By: mgeve http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/09/30/the-bafana-problem/#comment-6889 mgeve Fri, 02 Oct 2009 02:48:34 +0000 http://www.sportsleader.co.za/josephmisika/2009/09/30/the-bafana-problem/#comment-6889 Well, good piece and simply told. I think that our soccer is a reflection of our skewed self perception as a people. Our soccer is trying very hard to reach international standards, which, it seems that many people forget that we have long had international exposure, Kaiser, to Jomo, Ace and so on. We have long had this fascination with people like prof. Mazei(I hope I have the name right) to now. Look, you cannot try and ape other peoples life-styles at the expense of your national pride and people. We are so pre-occupied trying to be like the British, Brazilians, and so on. We cannot be and will never be. Like you said, we should concentrate on our own soccer academies and grassroots soccer talent. Our local soccer coaches understand the style and the expectation, language and culture of their own players. The thugs who run these top local teams should be replaced with a body that deals, through FIFA, with selecting and preparing local talent and the whole soccer scene. Right now, it's a dog eat-eat-dog South Africa with everyone working for self-interests and damn anyone else. It is clear from you stats that foreign players and foreign coaches are not doing well. This says something about us: we do not know our s--it. We are a confused people at the throes of self-discovery after a horrific existence, and are struggling to find ourselves in our confused state of being free. That's the truth! We are stuck with some new democracy, and lack of will and discipline, and to be brutally honest, we suck! Until we come to terms with ourselves and how the new South Africa ought to be like. Right now we are a caricature of our former selves. We know very well, that from Kaiser, to Jomo, Chipa, Yster, Banks, Rhee, Shakes Banda, Maria Maria to the generation of Dr Khumalo, we are really puny soccer player nowadays. Our players need to train more and harder, and invest some commitment to local soccer. Everybody is rushing forth to grab the money bag and drink from the waning gravy train. Our messed-up international team is a reflection of our chaotic, stressful and struggling society. Everybody is hobnobbing with some fat cats from overseas of the millionaire Johannesburgers and so forth. I do not want no need to sound politically correct, but until the day we take pride in our culture, people, sports, arts, and existence as the indigenous of Mzantsi, we will never succeed, no matter what anyone says. We have to begin to be ourselves, very soon! Well, good piece and simply told. I think that our soccer is a reflection of our skewed self perception as a people. Our soccer is trying very hard to reach international standards, which, it seems that many people forget that we have long had international exposure, Kaiser, to Jomo, Ace and so on. We have long had this fascination with people like prof. Mazei(I hope I have the name right) to now. Look, you cannot try and ape other peoples life-styles at the expense of your national pride and people. We are so pre-occupied trying to be like the British, Brazilians, and so on. We cannot be and will never be. Like you said, we should concentrate on our own soccer academies and grassroots soccer talent. Our local soccer coaches understand the style and the expectation, language and culture of their own players. The thugs who run these top local teams should be replaced with a body that deals, through FIFA, with selecting and preparing local talent and the whole soccer scene. Right now, it’s a dog eat-eat-dog South Africa with everyone working for self-interests and damn anyone else. It is clear from you stats that foreign players and foreign coaches are not doing well. This says something about us: we do not know our s–it. We are a confused people at the throes of self-discovery after a horrific existence, and are struggling to find ourselves in our confused state of being free. That’s the truth! We are stuck with some new democracy, and lack of will and discipline, and to be brutally honest, we suck! Until we come to terms with ourselves and how the new South Africa ought to be like. Right now we are a caricature of our former selves. We know very well, that from Kaiser, to Jomo, Chipa, Yster, Banks, Rhee, Shakes Banda, Maria Maria to the generation of Dr Khumalo, we are really puny soccer player nowadays. Our players need to train more and harder, and invest some commitment to local soccer. Everybody is rushing forth to grab the money bag and drink from the waning gravy train. Our messed-up international team is a reflection of our chaotic, stressful and struggling society. Everybody is hobnobbing with some fat cats from overseas of the millionaire Johannesburgers and so forth. I do not want no need to sound politically correct, but until the day we take pride in our culture, people, sports, arts, and existence as the indigenous of Mzantsi, we will never succeed, no matter what anyone says. We have to begin to be ourselves, very soon!

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