Comments on: ‘Primacy’ my ass: The ICC’s semantic coup

By: Haiwa tigere

Haiwa tigere — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:23:15 +0000

@ Ariel,hiring and using these test venues is not cheap. 5 day at the paltry crowds will not pay everybody who deserves to be paid. thats why cricketers are so relatively poorly paid. One dayers and the T 20 are the money spinners witness IPL.
Ashes every 4 years one test series between countries every 3 or 4v years. pile in the one dayers and T20/20 pay these guys a decent salary.
WHATS THE NAME OF THE ex english test cricketer(Chris lewis) caught peddling drugs???Not all of them can be commentatorsaftre their playing days are over.
Its all about money skilled exponents of the game must be paid well if quality players are to come through.
As of today the west indies dont have a team at all. The last big payday was from Mr stanford who happens to be in jail as we speak.
The desire to keep test cricket as primary will kill cricket in the long run for sure. west indies cricket IS DEAD

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By: Geoff

Geoff — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:04:04 +0000

It is all down to the dollar bill indeed-so I whole heartedly agree. Perhaps THE ASHES will make the financial men of the ICC (David Morgan, Haroon Lorgat, et al.) think a little harder about potential changes and if there even need to be any. Day 1 in Cardiff has certainly been a good (Though the Sri Lanka vs Pakistan match in Galle this past week did only last 4 days - so maybe not)

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By: Ariel

Ariel — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:52:13 +0000

Test cricket forever in my book.

Draws have been less common in recent years so I don’t really think that stands up as an argument against it.

The Aussies started it a while back when they decided that losing wasn’t there thing for about a decade.

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By: Adam

Adam — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:56:42 +0000

There have been more constructive suggestions here then the ICC has seemed to come up with recently. I think Haiwa makes some very relevant points: at the end of the day, he (and others paying to watch the game) wants to get value for money.

It would take me a while to wrap my head around 4 days, but with the other ideas like extension of play, more overs involved…you never know, it could possibly work…

I’m just a stickler for the 5 days…

Keep the comments coming!

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By: brnet

brnet — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:31:38 +0000

Test cricket is the games untimate, according to the top players plus everything needs to change to stay relevant.

So why not the following:

- 4 days at 7 hours per day = 28 hour tests vs 30 now
- start at 0900 or 1000, why waste good morning sunlight and then lose time for bad light in the late afternoon, think of the paying public.
- 15 overs per hour a law, any less and the bowling side is penalised by conceeding runs each hour to the batting side - say 5 per over not bowled.

Thus get a full 105 overs per day and spin comes back into its own as spinners will be required to achieve the 15/hour over target.

Jazzes up the game without losing the ethos of test cricket.

Brent

start

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By: Yawn

Yawn — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:12:49 +0000

Well spoken, sir!

The Philistines are upon us, no doubt.

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By: Haiwa tigere

Haiwa tigere — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:22:32 +0000

AND ANOTHER POINT- andrew symmonds autralias Samuel etoo of cricket salary under contract with australian cricket (before he drank himself to oblivion) 1 million dollars add his contract with ipl $2 mill .total 3 million dollars. samule etoo of barcelona gets a cool 250000 pounds a week 12 million pounds a year into his pocket and his taxmans pocket.
these are people of the same skill and dedication. By cricket refuusing to change it keep its players in relative poverty. Its already happening in the west indies. those who can play cricket can also play basketball /baseball and this pays big money in USA so all you get is the failed Baseball trialists who go into cricket.change your ways.

Warne Murali Mendis should at least get paid more than the cricket authorities. Warne at 40 plus should really not be playing he should be retired rich. Not adapting to suite the new enviroment is causing the relative suffering of ex cricketers.

I pay good money- i want to be entertained not spend 5 days watching the grass grow.
i HAVE WATCHED 1 live test for a full 5 days. NEVER AGAIN.i have watched countless 1 dayers and a few T20s. i will take my partner and her little brat to a 1 dayer and T20 any day.please dont let me listen to that kid for 5 days straight!

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By: Haiwa tigere

Haiwa tigere — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:36:52 +0000

oops on t20/20 i meant NEVER draws

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By: Haiwa tigere

Haiwa tigere — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:34:25 +0000

Huh - test cricket- the bottom line as ou say is the dollar. the fat salaries and cocktails must come from somewhere.I truly like test cricket- i love T20/20 better.
a) always exciting
b)always a draw-whoever says sittin in one ground9and its not cheap) for 5 days to end up with a dull draw with the batsman blocking every shot just to force a draw is not my kind of fun in the sun that is Waca Perth

Test cricket will die a slow death if they dont change the format things like
a)run rate must be at least 4 an over or lose a wicket for slow run rate.
b)maybe introduce a duckworth lewis kind of calculation in case of weather. NEVER DRAWS.
I truly hate wasting 5 days of watching warne do his beautiful thing all for nothing just because a taiender does not want to score ANY runs. he just wants to stay in.
Cricket has to be dynamic- change with the times adopt new innovations .TV will be with us for ever and it has the money.
Night test sounds ok to me. after work a few beers and second half of the days play.

WHAT BENEFITS DO YOU GET FROM REMAINING STAID. Someone has to pay the bills and 5 days of a boring match is not the way to do it.Its simply not meant for the paying masses.5 days for a match simply means you are unemployed or unemployable or just rich

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By: David Cloran

David Cloran — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:53:23 +0000

Great article! I agree with you wholeheartedly. Every professional cricketer aspires to play test cricket as that is the greatest stage to play the game. One day cricket, whether it be fifty over or T20, is a crowd pleaser, but that is not the format that players of the game take as seriously as test cricket.
As a true cricket fanatic I take heart from the packed stadiums in India, Australia, England, and even here recently in South Africa, watching the true TEST of a cricketer’s ability. I sincerely hope that the ICC do not change the format of test cricket.

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